Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:13 pm on 29 September 2020.
Thank you, Minister, for your opening remarks there, and thank you to Mick Antoniw as well—I think those points were well made.
Once again, I'm assuming, Minister, that you're bringing forward these regulations to ensure that staff in schools don't fall foul of the law, and, bearing in mind that you've already said that this doesn't negate the need for school staff to do their very best in order to deliver the curriculum, I suppose my essential question would be: why do you think that they would fail to do that?
We've previously agreed, haven't we, retrospectively, to the disapplication of the curriculum for a specific period of time, because of the impossibility of delivering it at short notice, with schools closing completely, apart from the hubs, and that very sudden exposure to blended learning, which was underdeveloped in many cases and which led undeniably to an inconsistent experience for pupils. This time, though, we're being asked for a period of time, which I hope you will clarify, to allow staff to use their best endeavours to deliver the basic curriculum and national curriculum in particular rather than continue under a duty to provide it. That sounds to me—. You just said to us, I think, that the duty actually still prevails; perhaps you'd clarify that.
Obviously we all understand how difficult it's been these last six months, and I completely associate myself with your opening remarks in thanking pupils' families and staff, but we have had repeated assurances from you that the online offer, primarily Hwb, is a quality offer; that you and schools and colleges and local authorities have all got thousands of pieces of IT kit, as well as licences, out to our young people who need them; and that schools are now better placed to provide blended learning than they were six months ago. So, of course, schools will use their best endeavours to fulfil those duties, they always have, so what exactly is it that you see preventing them from fulfilling those duties now? I accept it's not easy; I think I said that. I think my biggest concern though is this: yes, we've got schools that are going to face many lockdowns of up to a fortnight, but what is preventing schools delivering that curriculum through blended learning over such a short period of time, or catching up when pupils are back?
Can you tell me, Minister, whether you'll be asking the First Minister to report on the need for these regulations every three weeks and sharing the evidence on which that assessment is made? Because so many of our other Welsh Government COVID decisions are predicated on keeping our schools open and, if they're open, they should be delivering the curriculum, even to those classes who may be sent home. So, if you could clarify some of those answers for me, I'd be very grateful.