Thank you, acting Deputy Presiding Officer. I'm afraid I have to start by saying that I understand the frustration when it comes to the situation with their towns within their local area, but I absolutely reject the Member's assertion that the Welsh Government is not being ambitious in this area. I'm absolutely committed to driving creativity, to working with the town centre action group to take action in our communities across Wales. But I also recognise that Welsh Government doesn't have all the answers or all the ideas. I would encourage Members to come forward to work with us on those ideas and suggestions from communities within your constituencies to see how we can manage to shape and reinvigorate our town centres as we move forward.

In terms of the role for local authorities, again, as I said to Dawn Bowden, I would obviously encourage you to continue that dialogue. If there are specific issues you wish to raise, then please do so in writing to me. But one of the things I am keen to do, as I mentioned in the statement, is actually how we better enable communities to be part of that process because I really genuinely think that for something to succeed in the longer term, then communities need to have a say in shaping their own towns and their own centres where they live and work. One of the means, I think, to do that is to actually work a lot closer, and we have done this with the town centre adaptation fund to encourage town and community councils to be part of that process as well. I would welcome other means of looking at how we can be bring the communities on board to actually shape that in the future as we drive this forward, because it is absolutely right; we have an opportunity here now to actually make sure that our towns are able to not just survive during the pandemic, but to thrive post it.