The Member raises the need for diversification, and he's absolutely right—there is no one-size-fits-all solution to actually reinvigorating and regenerating our town centres. Whilst retail remains important, our towns can't survive on a retail offer alone. So, as I said in the statement, it's about shopping, it's about living, it's about leisure and it's about work as well. We've committed in the past, and continue to do so, to increase the opportunities for town-centre living, whether that be homes above shops or creating houses within or just on the edge of town centres, as a way not only of increasing footfall but actually giving people that access to those facilities on their doorstep as well. I think, as we move forward, we will see, with the change in working patterns as a consequence of the coronavirus pandemic, the need to actually look not just at co-working hubs, but around developing premises for people to be able to live and work within town-centre locations.

The Member talked about the need to—the connectivity for our towns as well, and that's connectivity not just in, as we talked about before, digital, but actually being able to physically get into our town centres. And I'm pleased there's work going on right across the country, and particularly in Pontypridd, about actually how we better connect, in the first instance, the train station with the centre of the town, when you leave the station, but, clearly, buses are key to the vast majority of people across Wales, my constituents included. That's why I'm working very closely with my colleagues the Minister for Economy, Transport and North Wales, and the Deputy Minister for Economy and Transport, to ensure that we better connect our communities to help support our town centres not only to survive but to thrive, and enable more people to access them in a way that actually works for them but also, of course, could bring those broader environmental benefits as well.