Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:55 pm on 7 October 2020.
The findings, acting Presiding Officer, are as stark as any of us would expect and anticipate and any of us have seen in our own communities over recent months—the impact that the virus, the pandemic, has had on people living in poverty, on older people, on ethnicity in and across Wales. We've seen how the virus has not been a virus that has hit people equally, but has had a disproportionate impact on those people who are, in some ways, the weakest and most vulnerable in our society, but also the people who need the support of a community and a Government that has to be on their side. And I think the report sets that out clearly, and all of us need to take note of this.
I'll be interested to hear how the Minister responds to this debate, but I'm grateful to Ministers—and I say 'Ministers'—over the last few months for the way in which they've put people first. It's very difficult responding to a pandemic when the science will change, our experience will grow and our knowledge will grow over time, because people will point to a decision taken in March and then ask why a different decision was taken in May or June. People will seek certainty in a science that simply doesn't exist and therefore Ministers and officials and scientists need to take decisions. And those decisions are based, obviously and clearly, on our knowledge and experience, but they're also based on our values—what is important. What we've seen in Wales is a Government rooted in the values of putting people's health and people's well-being first, and I think that's something that has united people across the country. And I hope that opposition parties will also recognise that, not only in this debate but in the months to come.
There are two points I wish to make, acting Presiding Officer. In the same way as the virus has targeted, if you like, the most vulnerable in society, so must Government support. The Government needs to look hard at ensuring that, when we are imposing regulations—and I think the Government has acted in an entirely proportionate way, in dealing with these matters—the measures that have been put in place to deal with the pandemic are being proportional to the threat from the pandemic, but are also, of course, disproportional in their impact on particular people in our communities. We know that poor people, women, we know that older people and children have been disproportionately impacted by the regulations, and we know why that is happening, and we understand why that is happening, but it does mean that the Government's support needs to be targeted at those people as well.
And if I could, acting Presiding Officer, say a particular word about the situation facing children with additional learning needs and children who come from deprived backgrounds. We know that these children are the people who are the most at threat from disruption to services and to the support that they require on a day-to-day, week-by-week basis. And I hope that, throughout all of our actions, we will always ensure that there is the support for children who are from deprived backgrounds and who have additional learning needs that means they must have the support available, because they cannot catch up quickly in six months or catch up in a couple of months, or have the sort of private support that is provided in some places.
In the same way as the measures to address the pandemic have to be supported by measures that support the people, so must the recovery. The recovery must be targeted at those who have lost the most, and I thought the report was very, very convincing on this particular issue. We need to ensure that we are able to put in the funding and to put in the resources to ensure that the communities who will be most greatly affected by the regulations that are in place, but also by the economic disruption that has been created by the pandemic, have a safety net, if you like, but that there's also investment in those people and in those places at the end of the day. I'm looking at my screen now and I can see my colleague Dawn Bowden, who represents the next-door constituency. She knows and I know how Merthyr and Rhymney and Tredegar are intricately linked, and that the communities just across the hill from where I am at the moment in Rhymney will be as affected as my own community here in Tredegar, and we need to ensure that we have support in place.
I won't, acting Presiding Officer—