Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:42 pm on 13 October 2020.
As with last week, we will abstain on one of the regulations today, for the same reason as we did last week. Last week, we were discussing restrictions across a number of counties in south Wales. I said, as did many other Members, including the Chair of the legislation committee, that the situation is unacceptable, where we're asked to approve regulations that place restrictions without having seen the data that would provide a sufficiently comprehensive picture for us to come to a decision as to the appropriateness of those regulations. And although the Government had almost a week to respond to those comments, unfortunately that detailed data wasn't provided to the legislation committee once again or to us as lawmakers for the next set of regulations that we are discussing today relating to four north Wales counties.
We do recognise that this situation is exceptional and that there are circumstances where the Government does need to act by placing restrictions or introducing other urgent changes in a way that moves more swiftly than the normal scrutiny process provides for. That's why we as a Senedd agreed to this general approach, but, first of all, the Government must try to ensure that that scrutiny can happen as swiftly as possible—a point we have made previously. But, secondly, they must enable us as those doing the scrutiny work by providing the data that they use to come to their decisions. In this case, we are simply asking for detailed data as to where the COVID cases are, where there are clusters, what the patterns are, where the higher risk areas are, so that we can decide whether we agree that the targeting is happening as effectively as it could. So, we will abstain on the No. 16 amendment.
And whilst I am discussing the need to share data and communicate with us as a Senedd, may I emphasise the frustration that I hear from local representatives—not just Senedd Members, but also at a local government level—that the Welsh Government needs to communicate more effectively on the rationale behind restrictions, the data, the background, the implications, and not just for our sake, to facilitate our work, but so that we can better communicate and answer questions from our own constituents? Yes, there have been phone calls coming from the Minister at the last minute, but I am asking now for the development of protocols as to how information should be shared, what information should be shared, and when, because communication is a hugely important part of the battle against the virus.
Moving to the second set of regulations, we will be voting in favour of this. The Minister will be aware that I have raised my concerns many times about the impact of the pandemic in terms of people's well-being, mental health and isolation. I hear anecdotal evidence from health workers who are concerned about an increase in self-harm, mental health problems and even suicide. What we have in these regulations is the ability for people living alone in high-restriction areas to come together, and that is a positive thing, but I would ask the Government to bring a very clear strategy to show us that well-being is a central factor to the Government's steps in tackling the virus, because there are threats here to the well-being of people from the virus itself, and there is a threat to broader well-being and health.
Finally, in terms of other legislation and other regulations we would like to see, I know that the First Minister has written on a number of occasions now to the UK Prime Minister, and I think the time for correspondence has come to an end and that the time for action is now. Although the First Minister decided to play a strange unionist game in responding to Adam Price this afternoon, our point as a party is very clear: whether it's within Wales or between different nations, there is a risk, and I know that the First Minister agrees with us on this, in people travelling from high-risk areas to lower risk areas. We believe that there should be restrictions on travel. The restriction does exist in Wales. It doesn't exist from England to Wales, so I'm asking you to square that particular circle and to ensure that there is consistency. Use the powers that you have.