Yes, I agree with the points that David Melding has made. Dai Lloyd referred to the fact that I launched the plan on Cardiff streets, but I launched it on Castle Street, which, obviously, has been closed to traffic, and it was a very sunny day, and it was good to see families out enjoying, using that street in a different way. I think you're quite right that one of the benefits—I suppose we have to look for benefits of COVID-19—is that we have seen local authorities reshaping their areas in a way that we haven't done before.

I'm certainly very happy to have those conversations with local authorities. I'm sure they're all coming forward with plans. If we're going to achieve a carbon neutral public sector by 2030, this is just the sort of thing that local authorities need to be looking at.