5. Statement by the Deputy Minister for Economy and Transport: Funding for Buses

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:07 pm on 20 October 2020.

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Photo of David Rowlands David Rowlands UKIP 4:07, 20 October 2020

Can I thank the Deputy Minister for his statement this afternoon? I believe the Welsh Government more than adequately funds bus companies in normal times. COVID, of course, may need extra funding in very targeted scenarios. However, I feel there is considerable waste in the resources allocated to the bus industry, where we see multiple buses, perhaps just minutes apart, on identical or near-identical routes, each carrying a tiny number of passengers. Perhaps we should go further than this statement envisages.

I know the Deputy Minister and indeed the Minister keep an open mind as to how the whole provision of public transport is delivered, and I share their deep concerns on the whole subject of deregulation, and would wholeheartedly support the implementation of a local authority or other public body-run bus network, but I also believe that we should seriously explore the possibility of a dial-up public transport option. All too often, even in normal times, we witness 50 to 60-seater buses running with just one or two passengers. Would it not be far more economical to introduce fleets of specially adapted minibuses, carrying just four to six passengers on a dial-up basis? These buses could be all electric, given their size and relatively short distances travelled. The community bus operation could work as a blueprint for this innovative transport system.

Would the Minister, and indeed the Deputy Minister, not agree with me that we cannot go on subsiding the present bus regime, which is uneconomical, costly and environmentally damaging? I know the Deputy Minister is deeply committed to getting people out of cars and onto public transport—or, he would probably say, better still onto bicycles. However, given the fact that most people do not completely share his enthusiasm for this particular mode of transport, I'm sure all of us would favour a public transport system based on the electric vehicle. So, would the Minister and, of course, the Deputy Minister, explore this green, cheap and practical option to the public transport system we run today?