Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. I listened to the contribution the Member made, and I have to say that I disagreed with not just the thrust of his argument, but a great deal of the detail that he claimed to put in, and I think it was an example of promoting the fringes of opinion in a way that is dangerous, and really can lead to misinforming the public at a time when we need more information, more clarity and more trust.

Yesterday, the Senedd, after debate, agreed the regulations that provide for the current restrictions to continue until the firebreak ends as planned on 9 November. We continue to face a very real and increasing public threat from coronavirus here in Wales, and I remind Members of some of what I said yesterday: in the weeks leading to the firebreak, the virus was spreading rapidly in every part of Wales. We have just gone through the deadliest week of the pandemic since the peak in April. Earlier today, my colleague the Minister for mental health and well-being announced that a further 44 people had sadly lost their lives to this terrible disease. And I was deeply troubled when the Member referred in his comments towards the end about so few deaths from this disease. I don't think that is appropriate at all. I send my condolences to all the families and loved ones of people who have lost their lives. On the Public Health Wales figures, 1,939 people—and we know the real figure is more—have tragically lost their lives since the start of this pandemic.

I'm proud that this Welsh Government listened to and weighed carefully the clear advice of SAGE and our own scientific experts on the technical advisory cell before deciding to implement these extraordinary restrictions. And there are choices for all of us: the Member referred to the 'so-called' experts at SAGE. They are genuine experts in their fields, and to try to refer to them to downplay the expertise and the knowledge they provide for all of us to make difficult choices on, I think is entirely wrong.

Members of the public can of course decide who to believe. They can believe the scientific experts on SAGE, who are not interested in who the Government of the day is, but to provide challenge and information to decision makers; they can believe every single chief medical officer in the United Kingdom who says that this is a clear and present threat to the future of the country, to lives and livelihoods; or they can believe the Member. I would urge Members to read again the scientific evidence that made the case for the firebreak that we published from our own technical advisory cell. And this is on the back of other measures having been taken, because, since September, we had implemented a series of local health protection areas. They did make a difference to help reduce transmission, and I want to thank people for the efforts they made in supporting all of those restrictions, but, on their own, they were not enough.