Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 7:16 pm on 17 November 2020.
I will start with agendum 11. I have no further comments to make on it, other than to say that we will be supporting that sensible change to the regulations.
In turning now to item 10, we will also vote in favour of these regulations, because I do believe they put in place a reasonable set of fundamental rules—the minimum that we could expect anyone to face in Wales at the moment, given that we are still living through a very dangerous pandemic. Nobody, at this moment in time, should be looking forward to normal life within days; it will be months before that can happen. Despite the positive news on a vaccine, it’s some time until we can deliver that.
So, in these regulations, yes, there are some reasonable rules that apply to everyone, but I still can’t see the other regulations that I would wish to see the Government presenting to us, explaining what that higher level would be in areas where we know that prevalence is far greater. We know where those areas are—many are in the south Wales Valleys. What we’re asking for is a higher level of support for those areas in order for them to help themselves by ensuring that there is additional support available to enable people to isolate when they need to do so, and that they are given financial support to do so, where there is support for people through the introduction of swifter testing, where there is universal testing happening across those areas too. So, that’s what’s missing, to my mind, and I am still seeking that, although, as I have said, we will be supporting these regulations because, in terms of their application across Wales, they are quite right.
The one thing I would note is that these regulations will be in place until February unless amended. Can I also seek an assurance again, although the Minister’s made reference to this on a number of occasions, that different regulations will be in place over Christmas that will allow families, hopefully, to be able to come together at that time, because it is so very important to well-being? There are many layers to the dangers of this pandemic, and one, of course, is the very real health risks of the virus, but there are also risks arising from well-being and loneliness issues as people continue to be apart. Over Christmas, people need that support of coming together.