Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:18 pm on 25 November 2020.
Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. I just wanted to reiterate that I think the Conservative position on the firebreak lockdown was a consistent position, and if that vote came today, we would stand by that vote and vote the same way. Because SAGE's advice at the end of September also pointed to the fact that the effectiveness and outcomes of such a firebreak, or lockdown—call it what you will—were unknown, and actually those harms are far greater. We do support restrictions to suppress the virus—we're not saying there shouldn't be restrictions; we do support that. And we support the localised restrictions, which would have a greater effect than some of the measures the Welsh Government have brought to date. So I just wanted to put that on the record, because sadly our terms of engagement don't allow the intervention. [Interruption.]