Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:31 pm on 1 December 2020.
Well, Llywydd, I agree with David Rowlands that, of course, the industry would rather be trading than relying on the help that they can receive from Government—of course they would—and we wish they were too. But where I profoundly disagree with him is in his suggestion that coronavirus is a disease that can be dealt with by targeted measures. The very earliest lessons for public health were learned in the cholera outbreaks of nineteenth-century Merthyr Tydfil. If one person gets cholera, that cholera spreads to everybody.
If just a minority of people act irresponsibly and selfishly, coronavirus doesn't distinguish between them and people who are following the rules. Coronavirus spreads to everybody, and that's why you have to deal with it on a population-wide basis. That is the decision of all governments across the United Kingdom and, indeed, governments right across the world. And the idea that this is a virus that can be simply dealt with by separating out some people from everybody else, it just profoundly misunderstands the nature of the epidemiology. It simply wouldn't work; it doesn't protect the people who follow the rules. We have to do it in the way that we are doing it, and that puts us, sadly, in the mainstream of the way in which countries across the globe are having to respond to this awful disease.