Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:18 pm on 1 December 2020.
Well, if the Member thinks it's easy to do a full-scale, Wales-wide lockdown, she hasn't been listening to the debate that I've been involved in. There's nothing easy about this at all, I can assure her of that. I said in my statement that we'll review the regulations by 17 December, and every three weeks after that.
What I will do is to make sure that we protect the Member's constituents. She knows, because the evidence from England is that tier 2 restrictions do not work. It's as simple as that. Hefin David set it out very well in his contribution earlier this afternoon. There's the evidence, there's the science. What she is asking me to do does not work and will not protect her constituents. Why would I possibly be willing to do something that I know, and she knows, would not protect people who live in that part of Wales? I won't do it, Llywydd, and neither will this Government.