6. Debate on the Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Report: The impact of the COVID-19 outbreak on journalism and local media

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:10 pm on 2 December 2020.

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Photo of Lord Dafydd Elis-Thomas Lord Dafydd Elis-Thomas Independent 4:10, 2 December 2020

(Translated)

Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding Officer. I thank the committee for preparing a comprehensive report in such a short time on an issue that's of vital importance to us all in a public health emergency, as we are in at present.

The report shows the challenges that face the media sectors in Wales as a result of the global pandemic, and it also does remind us of the problems that have been with us for many years in terms of how the people of Wales can communicate with each other through the medium of the system that we have at present in the media. And I would like to refer specifically, because we've accepted all the recommendations, apart from the one relating to the BBC, to the reason why we've taken this position. And I'd like to explain that it's only for a constitutional reason and we're very eager to see the very interesting developments in terms of the central management of the BBC, where Wales will play a very prominent role in the future of the BBC centrally—that there is an opportunity to have a new discussion with the BBC about the way in which that public medium can reflect devolution far more clearly. 

I'd also like to thank the committee for the effective way in which they engaged with stakeholders, and they gave a clear emphasis on the need for Welsh media to reflect and to be productive, because I think there's one great weakness in terms of several debates about the media, namely that the media only reflects things. The media darkens as well, because if issues don't get the due attention, democracy is not possible, and that was behind a request I made to Creative Wales to consider their role in relation to strengthening the media in Wales. And I'm pleased to say that the board of Creative Wales have met.

Unfortunately, I haven't had an opportunity to join them yet, but in the first meeting that I will attend as Deputy Minister responsible for this area, I will be discussing the way in which they can assist us in developing this principle of having better communication in terms of what's happening in Wales. And that includes, hopefully, the fact that we can develop a partnership between the Welsh Government and the Senedd Commission here so that these issues—well, I know that these issues have been issues of concern since I've been part of the Assembly, that we haven't had that sufficient understanding of our activities. I think that there is scope for the Senedd Commission, and I understand that they're willing to do this, to collaborate in a model of communication and to develop communication in Wales that is more adequate.

It's important to state that any body that funds communication of any kind or has oversight of any kind does operate on an arm's-length basis, which has been so effective in the cultural realm. And I think it's possible for us to have an operational means that sustains journalistic independence while ensuring that the ability of Welsh people to communicate with each other and the ability of the Welsh nation to be an understandable nation in the world are protected. Thank you very much.