7. & 8. Debate: New Coronavirus Restrictions (Postponed from 8 December) and a Welsh Conservatives Debate: Coronavirus — December Restrictions

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:22 pm on 9 December 2020.

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Photo of Mr Neil Hamilton Mr Neil Hamilton UKIP 6:22, 9 December 2020

Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. Well, these one-size-fits-all restrictions are plainly irrational and not supported by any credible statistical evidence. The Government has made many, many policy mistakes in the last eight months, and the predictions that I made when I criticised them all have all come true. The firebreak didn't work, nor could it work—all it could do was delay the transmission of the disease, at best. And this lockdown will be exactly the same. If the justification for these lockdowns is that we've got to have as an overriding objective the saving of life, then we shouldn't be opening up again for Christmas; indeed, we shouldn't be opening up again at all until we've got an effective vaccine that's proved to work. But obviously, we can't close down the entire economy, otherwise so many other ills will flow from that. But why are we concentrating on measures that plainly are going to have minimal if any effect upon the transmission of the virus, as everybody who's spoken in this debate against these regulations has pointed out compellingly that pubs and other regulated environments are the least likely environments in which the disease is going to be transmitted? And the alternative is to drink at home and in other circumstances where there's a higher risk of transmission. As usual, the Government is taking a sledgehammer to miss a nut.

Every week, we have in south-west Wales a meeting with the Hywel Dda University Health Board, and very helpful they've been. Last week, there were 89 people in hospital, in the three counties of Ceredigion, Carmarthenshire and Pembrokeshire, 89 the week before, and 85 the week before that. Where is the statistical evidence that in those areas these measures are needed? Public Health Wales published two days ago a list of all the 22 authorities in Wales and the infection rates and the death rates and the percentage positive rates. And what is the common sense behind a policy that treats Gwynedd, with a rate of 40 per 100,000 people infected by COVID, in the same way as Neath Port Talbot, with a rate of, then, 621 per 100,000? The difference between them is a factor of 15. Plainly, there is no rational basis to a policy that applies exactly the same restrictions to areas where there is a growing need to take some measures and areas where there is no obvious need at all.

And the ban on alcohol in pubs and restaurants before 6 o'clock is utterly and plainly on its face absurd and defies common sense, which as many Members have pointed out in this debate is why there is increasing frustration at the inability of Welsh Government to respond either to the pleas that are made on behalf of the many businesses that will go to the wall as a result of these continued lockdowns or, indeed, the general public who want to have some kind of a social life that is consistent with the control of the virus, or reasonable controls on the virus.