5., 6. & 7. The Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions and Functions of Local Authorities) (Amendment) (Wales) Regulations 2020, The Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and Restrictions) (Amendment) (No. 3) (Wales) Regulations 2020 and The Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (No. 4) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2020

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:58 pm on 15 December 2020.

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Photo of Andrew RT Davies Andrew RT Davies Conservative 3:58, 15 December 2020

I thank the Minister for moving the regulations this afternoon. For those watching our proceedings this afternoon, they might find it slightly bizarre—and this is a debate that we've had several times in this Chamber—that we are voting to give enforcement, or give power, to the regulations that have been in existence nearly two weeks now, and actually will be reviewed on Friday, as I understand it, under the normal Welsh Government procedures.

It's a long-standing position from the Welsh Conservative benches that we will be voting against item 5, which affects the hospitality sector. We do note that the travel restrictions that the Welsh Government have modified during the period do allow for travel into England into tier 2 and tier 1 areas, where Welsh residents could enjoy hospitality and then travel back into Wales—something I wouldn't recommend, but it does allow it in the recommendations. And we do disagree with the Welsh-wide nature of the restrictions, given the various levels of infection around the country, in particular in north-west Wales, where there would be the ability for some of these hospitality venues to carry on trading if the rules allowed that to be. So, we will be voting against that. We also note that much of the hospitality that people enjoy in licensed premises has moved into private settings, and previous evidence has indicated that those private settings indicate avoidance of the rules and greater transmission rates.

Item 6: we believe this is a sensible and precautionary measure, lowering the isolation period from 14 days to 10 days, and we believe the evidence supports this. However, there's a genuine problem about people sticking to the isolation rules. I think in some instances only 20 per cent of the population are actually agreeing to self-isolate, and I'd be interested to hear the Minister's response as to what measures the Welsh Government in messaging is trying to undertake to try and get greater adherence to the rules of self-isolation. I do note the story that's running today about Transport for Wales, which is a Government-owned business, instructing some of its members of staff to switch off the test, trace and protect app that is available so that the business can carry on functioning. So, I'd welcome the Minister talking about that particular instruction from a Welsh Government company to its employees.

Item 7 we'll be abstaining on, because whilst we can understand the sentiments behind some of these instructions on item 7, we do believe that, again, because it's an all-Wales approach, we think that some of the evidence points that some areas could allow for some of these attractions to carry on providing hospitality facilities for outdoor events, skate parks and trampolines where infection rates are low. Rather than the all-Wales approach, we believe that it would be far better to do a more localised approach on this particular aspect, and that's why we'll be abstaining, because obviously these organised events take risk assessments, and people obviously will continue to travel to certain areas of Wales, and where they can be accommodated in a safe environment, we believe that it might be sensible to allow some of these attractions to continue. So that's why, as Welsh Conservatives, we'll be abstaining on item 7.

I'd be grateful if the Minister possibly could talk to the new variant virus, N501, which I appreciate isn't affected by these restrictions, but might affect new restrictions that are brought forward, because I note that we haven't had a comment on the floor of the Chamber about this new variant of the virus, which ultimately has had an impact on our understanding of the virus across the UK. This isn't just a Wales issue, and so it would be helpful at the end of his summing up on these restrictions if he could give us some information as to how restrictions might have to be modified to accommodate the new variant, which we understand obviously assists in speeding up the transmission of the virus in communities, not just in Wales, but in other parts of the United Kingdom. Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer.