11. & 12. Debate: The General Principles of the Welsh Elections (Coronavirus) Bill and The financial resolution in respect of the Welsh Elections (Coronavirus) Bill

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:10 pm on 2 February 2021.

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Photo of Alun Davies Alun Davies Labour 6:10, 2 February 2021

I'm grateful to the Minister for the way in which she introduced this legislation this afternoon. I would say very gently to the Conservatives they need to learn not to oppose absolutely everything that the Government is seeking to do in dealing with this pandemic. These are very, very difficult days, and I do sympathise greatly with the Minister in taking the decisions that she has outlined to us, and I think it's incumbent on all of us who are sitting here, whatever part of the Chamber we represent, that we actually do seek to put our democracy ahead of any other consideration. 

I said last week in my contribution that I supported the introduction of this Bill, that I supported the process of an emergency Bill and that I thought that was a fair and good exercise of these powers, and I also support the exercising of the powers that it provides for Ministers. But I do believe that, in exercising these powers and seeking these powers, Ministers should also outline to us the circumstances in which they foresee these powers being exercised. I'm happy with the processes and the safeguards that are built into the Bill. I think it provides for good democratic scrutiny and a broad democratic agreement on these matters, which goes beyond an individual political party. I think that's important, and I think it's important to have that sense of joint venture across the Chamber. But it is important, in seeking powers, that whoever that happens to be, whether it's the First Minister, the Minister or even the Llywydd, that those people do outline the circumstances in which those powers would be exercised. I'm interested in understanding what the timescale is for such decisions. We have an election some weeks away, potentially. At what point is that not sustainable? At what point does the Minister foresee her coming to this place with a proposal or seeking the authority to make such a proposal? At what point does an election on 6 May not become a sustainable option? 

And then, as well as understanding the timescale, what are the criteria, the processes and the circumstances that would drive a decision? The rate of coronavirus in Blaenau Gwent has fallen more greatly than in almost any other part of Wales, and is now one of the lowest parts of Wales. It would be interesting, I think, for us to understand how the different numbers that we see reported every day would influence and shape a decision. Is it the case rate per 100,000? Is that what's going to drive a decision? It is a national figure, or one that takes account of locality? So, for example, if there is a really serious problem in one part of Wales, would that mean that the election for the whole of Wales needs to be postponed for a period of time? We need to understand what these criteria are.

And, finally, I thought the points made by Rhun ap Iorwerth were very powerful and very well made. This needs to be a safe election, certainly, but it also needs to be a fair election, and it needs to be seen to be fair as well, and that means particularly fair to those organisations, political parties an candidates who will not have the resources that most of the parties represented here this afternoon will have. For many of us, we have structured constituency parties, we have structured national parties able to run a campaign, but we must not abuse the privilege of incumbency, and that means enabling and allowing and creating the space to be challenged and to be challenged fairly for our seats. So, I hope that, in May or whenever it happens to be, we will have not only a safe election but a fair election. Thank you very much, Presiding Officer.