Well, NRW threw that one at you and you chose to ignore them, because they suggested an 8 per cent coverage for NVZs. It suits you sometimes to listen to their advice, but other times not, evidently.

Look, this latest episode, I would say, represents the final breakdown in the relationship between your Government and the agricultural community, because time and time again you've been more interested in pointing the finger of blame than genuinely working constructively with the sector to truly co-design a more sustainable approach. You seem to blaming the agricultural community for all of society's ills, and that really has to stop. You might find farmers a problem; I see farmers as a big part of the answer. So, would you agree with me that if we are to successfully tackle this problem, then we need everyone working together and pulling in the same direction? And would you also agree with me that this whole debacle represents an irreparable breakdown in relationship between your Government and the sector, and the only way now that that can be rectified is through a change of Government in May?