Group 4: History and diversity of Wales (Amendments 43, 44, 46, 47, 48)

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:11 pm on 2 March 2021.

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Photo of Kirsty Williams Kirsty Williams Liberal Democrat 6:11, 2 March 2021

Thank you, Presiding Officer, for that. And can I thank Siân Gwenllian for opening this group of amendments' debate, and also for Siân's support in the previous group, which has been steadfast throughout this entire process? So, I'm grateful to Siân and Plaid Cymru for their commitment in that regard.

Can I start with amendment 43? I urge Members to resist this amendment. As I have explained previously in this debate, references in the 'what matters' statement are already mandatory within the Curriculum for Wales. So, I want to make it absolutely clear that these issues cannot be dodged by any school. I have listened to the Member's views in the Stage 2 debate, and I am committed to expanding the wording within the 'what matters' statement, which will become the 'what matters' code, to make this even clearer. I have discussed this with Professor Charlotte Williams, who is content that we should put these matters beyond any doubt by an explicit and clear reference to black, Asian and minority ethnic stories in the 'what matters' code. Professor Williams has been very clear in her support for the Bill and this approach to black, Asian and minority ethnic stories, and I'm also aware of the wider support for Professor Williams's work with us across the communities and peoples of Wales. I'm delighted that Professor Williams has agreed to continue to work with us after the publication of her final report to implement the recommendations—holding this Government's feet to the fire. Sometimes in Government, reports are published by eminent specialists, but then there is something lacking in the implementation. I hope that having that commitment from Professor Williams to continue to work with us on the implementation gives Members confidence that we will not just talk about it, we will actually do it.

Moving on, then, to amendment 44, I have to say that, again, this is already mandatory. Schools need to be anti-racist as well as promote diversity and an understanding of black, Asian and minority ethnic stories, and the upcoming consultation on the race equality action plan will set out how important this commitment is to promoting an understanding of diversity in teaching and learning, and how that sits alongside active policies to address racism. The key concepts that form the proposed 'what matters' code have been developed in a process of co-construction owned by practitioners, against a clear set of criteria. And I have to say, whilst I appreciate that Siân Gwenllian says that she has taken some advice in terms of drafting amendment 44, what the amendment suggests would limit and narrow the study of the matters of Welsh history and identity and of black, Asian and minority ethnic stories not within, now, the subject of history—so, we've moved on from that, and I'm glad of that—but we've simply moved to the issue of maintaining that within the humanities area of learning and experience, and I think there is a danger in that. I've been clear throughout this process that, through statutory guidance, diversity, the history of Wales and all of its cultures, is something that schools should embed across each of the six areas of learning and experience.

So, what Siân Gwenllian talks about is absolutely important, and I would argue that the mandatory nature of the 'what matters' code means that those subjects will be taught, but I don't want to see these subjects contained merely within the humanities area of learning and experience. Why should not the stories of Wales be explored through the lessons of literacy and communication, in the texts that schools choose to study? Do our stories not find a place in our expressive arts, in the production of drama, music and dance? Do these experiences of our diverse communities and the impact of our experience within those diverse communities not have a role to play in the teaching of health and well-being? So, I would argue that what we have here in the Bill is the opportunity for Welsh histories in all of their diversity to be explored, not just within a single subject, not just within an AoLE, but actually to have those histories and experiences reinforced in cross-curricular work across all elements of the curriculum. That's been a really important piece of advice from Charlotte Williams, who says, too often, when we have talked about these issues, they have been confined to a single topic within a single subject, and it's not reflective of the contribution of our diverse communities right the way across all aspects of our lives.

As I said, we will amend the words to make it even more explicit, to provide the confidence that they need. But let me be absolutely clear, the legislation before us today absolutely expects, demands and will ensure that Welsh histories and the experiences of our black, Asian and minority ethnic communities are taught in every school in Wales, and I want to be absolutely clear that that is our expectation, and the legislation before us provides for that.