Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:17 pm on 2 March 2021.
Thank you very much, Llywydd. Amendment 44 does what you claim it does not do. Amendment 44 reads like this:
'The What Matters Code must set out how an understanding of the key historical events of Wales and the world, including—
'(a) Black and People of Colour History,
'(b) Black, Asian and minority ethnic experiences and contributions, and
'(c) the histories of racism and diversity,
'will be ensured across areas of learning and experience.’
I couldn't be more explicit that the intention of this amendment is to promote this area outside of the humanities to be exactly what you were saying it should be. So, you perhaps are deliberately taking us in a different direction to what we intend to deliver through these amendments.
If this area is to be mandatory, as you state will be, and that it will be mandatory through the 'what matters' statements, then what's the problem with supporting these amendments before us today? That isn't going to make any difference, is it? It will be on the face of the Bill if you support our amendments, and everything that you describe will flow down from that and will emerge from that. For me, that's the purpose of legislation: you state things quite clearly if you want everything else to filter down from there, and, if it's going to be in the guidance in any case, I don't understand your argument for not promoting it to be included on the face of the Bill.
I return to this point: you have decided to put RSE as a mandatory issue on the face of the Bill—excellent—and you're doing that so that everything else can flow from that decision. I can't understand the logic why not to put an area that is so crucially important for the development of our nation as we move forward and in respecting diversity and eradicating racism from our society. That too needs to be on the face of the Bill so that transformation that needs to happen can happen and can be given the valid status that it deserves. So, I would urge you to support our amendments here. Thank you.