15. Debate: The Police Settlement 2021-22

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:20 pm on 9 March 2021.

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Photo of Julie James Julie James Labour 6:20, 9 March 2021

Diolch, Llywydd. I would like to thank Members for their interest and contributions today.

Once again, what to say to Laura Jones? I don't know whether she just didn't understand it or is being disingenuous, as Alun says. But just to reiterate once more, the funding provided through the Welsh Government accounts for 35 per cent of the core revenue grant funding for policing in Wales. When council tax is included, 65 per cent of the general funding for policing in Wales is administered here. Obviously any devolution of policing that happens would need to come with the appropriate funding. I absolutely agree with both Leanne Wood and Alun Davies about both the importance of us having control of that in order to do all of the things that they both set out, and with which I entirely agree, and our ability to fund those strategies, possibly.

Laura Anne Jones, I'm sure, knows that the Welsh Government passes on the amount agreed with and transferred to the Welsh Government from Her Majesty's Treasury and the Home Office. Policing is non-devolved, as I'm sure she knows, and it's obviously not appropriate to reduce funding for devolved responsibilities in order to increase them for non-devolved responsibilities. I think that's just self-evident. So, she was either, as I say, being disingenuous or fundamentally misunderstands the purpose. I suspect strongly, as Alun Davies said, she was merely trying to make a political point very poorly.

I'd just like to reiterate once more that community safety is obviously a top priority for this Government. As I said in my opening remarks, whilst this settlement appears on the face of it to be a good settlement, as Alun and Leanne both pointed out, it is in fact cash flat in terms of core funding, and therefore not in fact a good settlement at all. It merely restores the police to where they were before.

I know that some police and crime commissioners have expressed concern that while additional funding has been provided for new officers, there is still insufficient funding for the existing complements. However, this is a matter, unfortunately, for the Home Office, as it's not devolved to us, and there's nothing we can do to make that up. We are, however, committed to working with PCCs and chief constables to ensure that these challenges are managed in ways that limit the impact on community safety and front-line policing in Wales. Continuing to work in partnership, as always, to identify and take forward opportunities is very important, as is demonstrated by the successful deployment of our 500 community support officers, who have made such a difference to the visible police presence on our streets in this last year, as always.

On that basis, Llywydd, I commend this settlement to the Senedd. Diolch.