7. Debate on petition P-05-1078, 'Increase funding for mental health services and improve waiting times for people needing help in crisis'

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:27 pm on 10 March 2021.

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Photo of Rhun ap Iorwerth Rhun ap Iorwerth Plaid Cymru 4:27, 10 March 2021

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May I also thank Laura Williams for bringing this petition forward and for managing to gather so many signatures? It's proof that this is an area where people want to see greater action from Government. I think we are in a far better position these days in terms of our willingness to discuss mental health issues. A lot of stigma is being tackled slowly, but there's a long way to go too, and we still can't say hand on heart that mental health is treated with real parity with physical health, and what we have here is a demand for two things that would help us to move towards that equality—greater funding for mental health services and a reduction in waiting times for those facing mental health crisis. And whilst I support that, certainly, and do want to deliver that under a Plaid Cymru Government, I also want to emphasise the importance of the preventative agenda. As with physical health, early intervention, or even trying to prevent minor problems from becoming more serious, is just as relevant with mental health issues, and that's why I've outlined plans to establish a number of well-being centres for young people across Wales—centres at the heart of our communities on the high street where young people can call in if they are facing emotional or mental health problems, young people who do not have a problem that's been diagnosed as requiring specialist health or psychiatric care, but do need immediate support. We need to be proactive in the way that we respond to mental health problems.

We can look back to the beginning of the pandemic, when Betsi Cadwaladr health board told almost 1,700 patients that they were to be taken off waiting lists for an appointment with mental health services, and that they would have to make a request to see someone again, because the pandemic had had an impact on services. Of course, there was an apology for that. It shouldn't have happened. It was somebody somewhere who had misunderstood direction from Government. But the fact that someone somewhere had thought for just one second that it would be acceptable to do that does tell us a great deal about the work that remains to be done. What we saw there was the exact opposite, if there is such a thing, of being proactive and providing early support.

Another example: I remember the last Labour First Minister saying that the reason that waiting lists for CAMHS services were so long was because so many children and young people on those waiting lists didn't truly need to be there. Well, what happens, then, is that the criteria in terms of who should be supported is tightened up in order to reduce the waiting lists, rather than thinking of ways of providing improved treatment to more children and young people.

So, thank you once again for bringing this petition before us. I hope to have an opportunity in Government, as a Plaid Cymru Minister, to strengthen the provision available in years to come.