I note you said there, First Minister, that you were making a 'conservative assessment' of Plaid Cymru's policies and I think you used your words very advisedly, because I expect you next to be quoting Theresa May and the magic money tree. That's not an election campaign that went very well for her in the end. Our policies will be costed, independently verified by Professor Brian Morgan and Professor Gerry Holtham, an economist that you know very well and you've used as an adviser to the Welsh Government yourself.

I don't expect my powers of persuasion to extend to a u-turn by you any time soon on the question of independence, First Minister, but can I ask you a couple of genuine questions in this final First Minister's questions? In your vision of home rule, what powers would you leave at Westminster, given they would be for most of the time still in Tory hands? And, finally—and to us this is the central question—if the Conservatives, as currently predicted, win the next Westminster election, probably the one after that, and so on, is there some point at which even you would accept, First Minister, that independence becomes for Wales the more progressive option?