Part of 1. Questions to the First Minister – in the Senedd at 2:02 pm on 26 May 2021.
Well, Llywydd, I'm going to have to gently suggest to the leader of Plaid Cymru that the election is over, and the idea of independence was very thoroughly tested in this election and people in Wales made their decision on that issue.
So, the policy of my party on the benefits system is that we should seriously explore, as John Griffiths, leading the local government committee in the last Senedd, did on our behalf, the devolution of the administration of parts of the benefits system. But the benefits system itself should be an engine of redistribution right across the United Kingdom. The fact that it is temporarily under the control of a party that doesn't regard it in that way is not a criticism of the potential that that system has always had to move money from those who have more than they need to those who need more of it to sustain an ordinary lifestyle. I think that is still one of the things that has the potential to hold the United Kingdom together.
I very much regret that we have failed to persuade the UK Government not to tax the lump sum we've been able to provide to social care workers. And the fact that it is being used as evidence of income for the benefits system is an even bigger blow to those people who work every day in that sector to earn a living and now find the money that was provided to them from the Welsh Government being taken away from them by the UK Government through universal credit.