6., 7., 8., 9. & 10. The Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (No. 5) (Wales) (Amendment) (No. 6) Regulations 2021, The Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (No. 5) (Wales) (Amendment) (No. 7) Regulations 2021, The Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (No. 5) (Wales) (Amendment) (No. 8) Regulations 2021, The Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (No. 5) (Wales) (Amendment) (No. 9) Regulations 2021 and The Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (No. 5) (Wales) (Amendment) (No. 10) Regulations 2021

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:07 pm on 26 May 2021.

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Photo of Russell George Russell George Conservative 4:07, 26 May 2021

Can I first of all thank the Minister for her introduction to the regulations today, and can I congratulate the Minister very sincerely on her new appointment also? We in Welsh Conservatives will support the regulations this afternoon, as, in my opinion, and in Welsh Conservatives' opinion, it's the right approach in terms of easing the restrictions on the economy and opening up society again.

I would like to make a few points that, hopefully, Minister, you can take into account at your next review point as well. Those would be—. First of all, it's in regards to business support, and I hope I can take the heat out of some of the exchanges earlier today, first of all by saying I think that businesses are hugely grateful for the support from the UK Government and the Welsh Government during the pandemic, and I think they're hugely grateful for that support. I think the latest round of restrictions—sorry, the latest round of business support—in terms of the eligibility checker that was released last Monday, has caused a lot of businesses concern. They simply—. Some of the criteria are too rigid. Now, I understand we have to have those criteria—this is public money being spent—but I would just question the balance in that regard, and I hope that this can be considered by you and your colleagues in terms of the next review point.

It's also important to remember as well that many businesses are still not able to reopen, even given the current easing of restrictions. I'm thinking of particularly the hospitality sector, many restaurants, pubs and cafes, just because they can't offer that social distance element and they can't open outdoors. So, I'm particularly thinking about them, and they haven't even been able to recuperate their losses from last year. So, I think these are important considerations to take at the next review date.

Also, if I could raise a point as well about swimming pools that's been raised by me and others, Minister, and I think it may have been raised with you as well. Although the restrictions have been eased, many swimming pools are simply not able to open because of the restrictions—social-distancing restrictions don't allow that to happen; it's not cost-effective for them to open. Now, I appreciate Welsh Government has brought forward some funding in that regard, but I would perhaps ask her to relook at that funding and the restrictions as well to see if more swimming pools can be opened, because my fear would be that, if that doesn't change, then some of these swimming pools will never reopen again, and of course we all know the repercussions of that in terms of Welsh Government's and indeed my own thoughts in terms of the importance of swimming pools as we go forward as well, and people being able to access those swimming pools.

Minister, I'm quite pleased to hear what you said in terms of the next review date in terms of indoor household mixing. I think this is very much welcome. You yourself, Minister, pointed out that we've got lower rates of infection here in Wales and the vaccination programme is going well. So that does allow us, I think, the opportunity, and allows you the opportunity as the Welsh Government, to relook at indoor household mixing. You've alluded to that, which I'm really pleased about and I very much welcome that. And very much I think the public think about that you can go to a restaurant, six people can meet—it's six different households—yet you can't meet in somebody's home. I think there are questions around that, and I think for me as well there are many people who are simply not able to go out to a restaurant and meet friends or family, and therefore they're not meeting those people, unlike others who can do that, and I think there are mental health issues in terms of people being able to meet. We know in other parts of the country people can hug and meet as well, so I'm hoping, Minister, in your next review date, that we'll hear more in terms of household indoor mixing. But, of course, I also appreciate the indoor variant—sorry, the Indian variant—as well, and this will impact on your considerations as well. So, I'm hoping, Minister, in your closing remarks, you might be able to talk a bit about the opening of household mixing, and also your considerations in that regard in terms of the Indian variant as well.

And finally, I wonder what progress has been made on the vaccination passports via the NHS app, as outlined by the First Minister a couple of weeks ago. I hope in your closing remarks you might be able to touch on that as well. Diolch, Llywydd.