Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:53 pm on 9 June 2021.
We've now reached voting time and therefore we'll now undertake the votes. The first set of votes will be on the Welsh Conservatives' debate this afternoon, which was a motion under Standing Order 17.2 to give instructions to a relevant committee in relation to the all-Wales NVZ. I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Darren Millar. If the proposal is not agreed, we will vote on the amendments tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. The result is: in favour 29, no abstentions, against 29. And therefore, as required by Standing Order 6.20, I exercise my casting vote.
Just for new Members to understand everything, I'll just give you this little read to clarify everything, okay? Where there's an equality of votes, the casting vote must be given in accordance with Standing Order 6.20. In most cases, this will result in the casting vote being used to defeat a motion and always to defeat an amendment. The casting vote is used in favour of a motion if its acceptance would result in further consideration of that matter by the Senedd. The only examples of it being used in this way are in votes on Bills where further discussion before the Senedd is possible at the following stages of the Bill.
Today's motion is in two parts: the first is to note a position on a policy and the second, an instruction to a committee under Standing Order 17.2. The first part of the motion would without question give rise to a casting vote against the motion, since there is no majority for a decision and the matter of further discussion does not arise. In the second part of the motion, the matter before the Senedd is very specific: does the Senedd wish to give an instruction to a committee or not? This also gives rise to a casting vote against the motion, since no further discussion is possible on that question. This also preserves the principle that the Senedd should not take decisions without majority support. A casting vote against the motion does not prevent the relevant committee, once it's established, from holding such discussions as it wishes. Neither does it prevent the Senedd from discussing NVZs again in Plenary. And therefore, I'll be casting my vote against the motion on this occasion.
So, now the voting is: in favour 29, no abstentions, and against 30. Therefore, the motion is not agreed.