I thank Rhun ap Iorwerth for all those points. In terms of why the real living wage rather than the £10 that he mentioned, I think I did respond to that, to the Conservative spokesperson. The real living wage provides certainty to workers that their rates of pay will be independently and fairly reviewed each year. Rather than a one-off figure, such as £10, workers can be assured it will be updated every year. The Living Wage Foundation is a very respected organisation that makes a calculation and they have come up with the £9.50, and I think it will be a great step forward when we do implement the £9.50 for all social care workers. I do acknowledge that it is a step in the right direction, but as I said, we are relying then very much on the social care fair work forum to work on all these issues with us.

And all the other points that he mentioned about the bonus, you know, I think, obviously, the fact that the UK Government continued to tax the bonus and also allowed it to affect the benefits is something that they did have the power to do, and the fact that they didn't do it does show their lack of sympathy with social care workers.

The other points he makes about the zero-hours contracts and the different recognition of social care workers, those are all things that the social care fair work forum will be considering. But I just really feel that this is a step forward and we will deliver the real living wage to all social care workers by 2024, but we will start delivering it by April next year and I think that that is a reasonable time frame.