Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:07 pm on 6 July 2021.
I thank the Member for that very detailed contribution, and many of the comments I actually welcome. In the 10 or 11 years now that I've been a Senedd Member, I don't think I've attended a single legislative programme debate where the debate doesn't start off with how dissatisfied the opposition are with the volume of legislation, with the quality of legislation, and why it is taking so long. I often understand those particular points. I have to say, as Counsel General, one of my concerns is the quality of legislation, rather than quantity; also, looking at things that can be done without legislation. As the Member, I'm sure, will know, 'legislate in haste, repent at leisure'. We've seen much legislation, certainly at UK Government level, that has fallen within that category.
Can I just say, on the muscular unionism issue that he raises, that it's a phrase that is used to represent what I think is a real concern about a Government that is not listening or is in denial about the fact that there is a major constitutional problem; that is in denial, really, about the internal market Act? I should, perhaps, say that the Government isn't in denial about it, because I think the UK Government knew exactly what it was doing when it introduced that particular legislation. As I have reported already in a written statement, and, I think, in answers to questions, we've been granted leave to appeal to challenge aspects of that, and we await a date in respect of that. I will report to Members on that in due course.
I welcome very much the Member's comments on accessibility, because the accessibility of Welsh law—which I see in terms of the availability to be able to find it, to have it properly codified, to have it clear and available—is really important in terms of the growth and generation of the Welsh judicial system and the establishment of a Welsh judicial structure. It is also important, though, in terms of the areas, as he will know from the Thomas commission report, that we should have devolved to us and those areas that we should have responsibility for, which, actually, relate to the citizens of Wales and their ability to access the law. There is no point having the best laws in the world if people either don't know where they are or what they say, or, as importantly, they cannot access those particular laws.
He raised the issue of the renting homes Act, and I agree with him. In 2016 we planted what I think is an exemplar piece of legislation, giving rights to tenants and in many other housing areas. We’ve had the issue of Brexit and we’ve had the issue of COVID, and I think it would be a mistake to underestimate the actual scale of demand and legislation that has sidelined the ability to do some of the things that we wanted to do in the last Senedd. But that is one of the reasons why I specifically referred in my statement today to implementation and how the implementation is as important as primary legislation and new primary legislation. And as I’ve said, without that implementation, all those rights that are contained within the primary legislation are of little value. So, the point you make there is absolutely fair and correct. That is a priority, and I’ve already indicated the scale of implementation legislative work that is going to be required.
In respect of the issue of the environment and climate change, the clean air Act is a clear commitment. It was a manifesto commitment. It is really under consideration. If I could have got it into this first five-year programme, I would have done. But it does not mean that work is not ongoing on that. The commitment to that and the commitment to the plastic tax, as I’ve mentioned, are already there. I think it’s also reflected, when one talks about commitment to environmental issues, in the fact that we’ve had a major structural reform in the operation of the Welsh Government by the appointment of a Minister for Climate Change. That, I think, is very, very significant. I think we should also say, in terms of the environment, that work is going on in respect of the incorporation or the implementation of environmental principles into legislation, and that is an area that is going to be looked at as well.
In terms of Welsh language standards and the point that you raised there—. I should say, in some of the legislation, one of the advantages we have, of course, is ensuring that some of our legislation is bilingual, and one of the consolidation impacts is actually that we actually do that—that we actually ensure that we do implement our commitment to bilingualism in the legislative framework. On Welsh language standards, we are very keen to look in detail at the impact that standards have on the use of Welsh. And I think further to that, we want to ensure that we use our legal resources in the most effective way. So, if legal resources are available, we want to consider the amount of work to be done to introduce any regulations alongside the policy priorities as well, and that is a matter that inevitably is going to be the subject of considerable further debate and, I’m sure, in respect of future legislative statements.
Just one further point, in terms of building safety. That is very much on board; there are intentions of introducing legislation with regard to building safety. It’s a question of the consideration now of the second and third-year programmes, and also looking ahead as well. I think the Member will understand why I’ve adopted the approach in respect of ensuring that in our first Senedd year we prioritise those things that we have to do, that we need to do.
I’d make one further comment, I suppose, because it wasn’t particularly raised, but I know it fits within the general framework of discussion—the importance of the social partnership Bill that we will be bringing forward. Thank you, Deputy Llywydd.