Llywydd, thank you very much to Llyr Huws Gruffydd for the question. The information that I have shows that 14 of the local authorities in Wales pay the living wage. The number has increased over the years, and I look to all public bodies in Wales to plan to pay a living wage. I acknowledge the fact that not all local authorities are in the same position. Not all local authorities under the leadership of Plaid Cymru are as yet paying the living wage. That reflects the fact that local authorities are not all starting from the same point. The point that I always make to them is that I am willing to acknowledge that, but I'm not willing to accept it when they say they don't have a plan and that they haven't started the journey.

I try each year to attend the annual event that celebrates the living wage. That will take place on 15 November, and at that event we receive the official report of what has happened over the year to date, and how organisations throughout Wales are preparing and planning for what they can do in the ensuing year.