Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:40 pm on 22 September 2021.
Thanks, Luke. I listened to this debate with real interest, actually, but what I've found from visiting businesses in my own constituency is that many employers want to be flexible themselves, and I'm particularly finding this as a result of the pandemic. When I visit businesses, employers are offering employees what suits them because they want to get the best employees for their business. They are already offering, if not four days, 'Do you want to finish early? Does it suit you to finish mid afternoon to pick children up?' et cetera. So, I'm just wondering to what extent you think that market forces are perhaps driving the change that you actually might want to see, and that I also agree with.