If the Member wouldn't mind, I'll probably get to our approach as we get through the—. I'm trying to actually get through my contribution in the time allocated. But I thank you for the contribution to give us pause for thought as to actually where those opportunities could be to potentially look at things like this in the future. 

This shouldn't actually be about shifting towards a post-work world, but to realising a world of work that is dignified, decent and has well-being at its core—the well-being of the worker, the economy, and our environment. And it absolutely will mean that the worker voice is heard and represented and will require social partnership between both trade unions and employers. 

And I agree on the importance of looking at that international evidence, such as the four-day working week pilot in Iceland, and I will also be taking very close interest in development elsewhere, much closer to home, including in Scotland, where we've heard work is under way to develop a four-day working week pilot, and Welsh Government officials are already in touch with their counterparts in the Scottish Government who are working on that pilot, so we'll be following that very closely and speaking to them on that.

Where we have amended the original Plaid motion, it's just because we think it's great to take a more evidence-based approach, and that means actively considering the progress that's made through the pilots in other countries, and in examining the lessons that Wales can learn, but also placing it within the wider context of improving work in Wales.

The Icelandic pilot, which saw the public sector move from a 40-hour to a 35- or 36-hour week has provided some encouraging evidence. For example, productivity and service provision remained the same or improved across the majority of trial workplaces. However, it did cover a relatively small group of workers, most of whom were employed full time, so we need to consider that in the whole carefully, as we draw conclusions from it. 

In that context, it's also important to recognise the work on the Scottish pilot is still in its early stages. They're working through a number of issues to shape a pilot that has a robust design, and we look forward to looking at the further detail that will emerge from Scotland and to considering the evidence that emerges from the pilots in Ireland and in Spain. My colleague Jack Sargeant—my constituency neighbour Jack Sargeant—I know is hosting an event on this very subject tomorrow evening, and I'm really keen, as well as this debate today, to hear from those experiences, not just the possibilities, but actually addressing some of the challenges we've heard today to make sure—. You know, we can't legislate for maximum hours, but how can we use other levers, and also how can we do it in a way that has that equity of opportunity for workers across sectors?

We oppose amendment 3, tabled by Darren Millar and spoken to by Joel James. There is no question of a four-day week being imposed on employers and workers in Wales. We believe in social partnership and an equal voice for employers and workers. Equally, we won't be supporting amendment 4, also in the name of Darren Millar, which reminds us that employment matters are reserved to the UK Parliament. This debate is not about legislating on employment matters; it's about how we may use our levers to promote and encourage more progressive working practices. And I have to say, from the contributions on the Conservative benches, it seems like the rhetoric and the slogan of levelling up doesn't apply to workers and workplaces.

We will continue to take a close interest in the evidence around a four-day working week, in particular evidence that a four-day working week can improve people's work-life balance, help us cut carbon emissions and air pollution and support gender equality, without resulting in a loss of pay or a lowering of terms and conditions, whilst maintaining, and hopefully improving, productivity.

This Welsh Government is working in social partnership to advance fair work, and I'm committed to undertaking a piece of broader work to look at the future of fair work in Wales, and as such, we look forward to following the developments of pilots in other countries and to drawing lessons from them as part of this work over the coming months, and I look forward to being able to work with colleagues in partnership to take that forward. Diolch.