Part of 2. Questions to the Minister for Health and Social Services – in the Senedd at 2:40 pm on 29 September 2021.
Thank you very much, Rhun. I do agree that it is a shame that we haven't gone further than this previously, but we do have a programme in place now. Forty million pounds has been earmarked for that. It's not as though no work has gone on; work has already happened. If you look at Swansea, for example, a lot of work is being done in the hospital there. I'm asking them all the time, 'Why can't you move more quickly?', and one of the reasons they give to me is that you have to hold people's hands through the system. There's no point having all the equipment and all the resources, if people don't use the system, and you have to provide that training on a one-to-one basis. That's why it takes so much time. That's the explanation I've had, at least, from the Swansea health board. But, of course, that's just one element of that. We do hope, where we can, to go more quickly when it comes to primary care. I do hope that we can see that system. It won't be five years. If I'm in this place at that time, it won't be five years. We'll need to go more quickly than that.