7. Debate: Voter Inclusion

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:57 pm on 9 November 2021.

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Photo of Mike Hedges Mike Hedges Labour 5:57, 9 November 2021

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But, since the 1992 election, when 77.7 per cent of the population voted, voter turnout has decreased and remained low. What we need is to get more people voting, rather than trying to make it more difficult for those who marginally want to vote to vote.

On changing the electoral system, there's a push for the single transferable vote. STV is the electoral system used for Scottish council elections and for the Irish Parliament, the Dáil. The greatest weakness of STV is you have to guess how many seats you can win with nominated candidates. In the Irish general election of 2020, Sinn Féin, despite receiving the most first-preference votes nationwide, did not win the most seats. Despite beating Fianna Fáil by 535,995 votes to 484,320, they ended up with one seat less. It took 12,745 votes to elect each Fianna Fáil Member, but 14,476 to elect a Member of Sinn Féin—they guessed wrong on the number of seats they might win. So, STV is less a proportional system and more a skilled guessing game. 

Is it any surprise—[Interruption.]—that Scotland, despite using it for council elections, has decided not to use it for the Scottish parliamentary elections? The Highland Council area of Wester Ross, Strathpeffer and Lochalsh is the classic example of a council-size ward—not only is it the largest ward in the UK, it is larger in its area than 27 of Scotland's 32 councils. Also, it's roughly the same size as Trinidad and Tobago. Then there is the population needed for these wards to allow STV to operate effectively. Glasgow Ward 1 has an electorate of 30,000, roughly two thirds of the population of the Aberconwy Senedd constituency. Turning to Glasgow Govan, Labour topped the poll with 1,520, the SNP coming second and third with 1,110 and 1,096 votes each, and the Green candidate edged out the second Labour candidate to win the fourth seat. While the SNP efficiently got the first preference for both candidates very close to each other, Labour did not, and thus, despite easily topping the poll, ended up with just one of the four seats.

To summarise on STV, it needs to cover a very large geographical area, it needs a large population, it makes it much more difficult for constituents to know candidates—and one thing we might all agree on is it's important that constituents know candidates, are able to meet their candidate and actually know somebody from their own community—it involves guessing the number of seats you are going to win, and voters efficiently voting for the party candidates.

I had an intervention from a sedentary position by my colleague Alun Davies that first-past-the-post was also about guessing, but it isn't, is it, because first-past-the-post is about getting the most number of votes. So, you put your candidates there and you don't have to guess the order in which they're going to come up.