Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:41 pm on 23 November 2021.
In every annual report, as you've mentioned, Sir Wyn Williams has emphasised the importance of the independence of the Welsh Tribunals unit. And not for one second do I question that independence, but, as you are aware, it is crucial that justice is seen to be done. I'm sure you would agree, but just for the record, would you agree that we need structural independence for this unit within Welsh Government, and what are your plans to ensure this?
And to conclude, Deputy Llywydd, through the Welsh tribunals, we have an opportunity to build a justice system that is fair and accessible in Wales. For example, you don't have to pay any hearing fee in Welsh tribunals. However, in order to have a fair system, we need sufficient resources from the Government and from the Senedd for tribunals. The president of tribunals, and its members, and the staff, and everyone who uses the service, need the support that they need. And that, Counsel General, is how we can persuade the people of Wales, and prove to the people of Wales, that we can do justice better here in Wales than is done in Westminster. Thank you.