6. Statement by the Minister for Health and Social Services: Update on COVID-19

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:00 pm on 14 December 2021.

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Photo of Baroness Mair Eluned Morgan Baroness Mair Eluned Morgan Labour 5:00, 14 December 2021

Diolch yn fawr, Russell. Vaccination is absolutely the priority now, and if we do want to protect our NHS going into January in particular, then now is the time to do that work, and that's why we have really put a turbo charger up our system, to make sure that that vaccination programme can actually just be rolled out much quicker, but not in the chaotic way that we've seen in England. In Wales, we do things differently. We try and line things up before making an announcement. You saw those scenes in England on the weekend—thousands of people rolling up to vaccination centres, no plan, and GPs hadn't even been told. We do things very differently here in Wales. We have a conversation first, we line it all up, and then we make an announcement. That's precisely what we've been doing.

There are still some t's to be crossed and i's to be dotted. As you can imagine, this is a Herculean task that we'll be facing. What will happen is, when it's time for your vaccination, you'll be texted or you'll be phoned, so it is important that people have given their contact details to their GP so that we have your most up-to-date contact details. We will then get to a point where we'll let you know publicly if you should have been in the group of people that should have been called. So, we are sticking to the JCVI's suggestion that we should vaccinate people in order of priority in terms of their vulnerability, really—so it's an age-related and an illness-related approach, as recommended by the JCVI. We're going to be sticking to that.

It is possible that we'll be extending the opening times beyond 8 o'clock, so that is something that is just being worked out now. That is likely to happen, certainly in some of our larger centres. The recruitment campaign has already started. We have told people that they can sign up and help us out in terms of volunteering, so that's already been done, and there's a separate process for volunteers who are health professionals. We're also waiting for a response from the Ministry of Defence to our request for support from the military as well.

In terms of the gaps, we are really disappointed. In some areas we are seeing lots of people not turn up for their vaccination, and that is a really, really troubling situation that is arising, which is why we need to underline the fact that this is a vital opportunity for people to undertake and get that booster jab. So, what we're doing is we've always had a system of over-booking, and we'll be over-booking again to make sure that we don't have those gaps.

It's true that two doses of AstraZeneca is certainly not enough, but it's also true that it's not enough of Pfizer as well. That's why we are really driving this with a real sense of urgency. We follow the JCVI advice when it comes to the interval between doses. They have agreed that it is possible to reduce the time between doses—the second dose and the booster dose—from six months to three months, so we are simply following the scientific advice on that.

In terms of cancelling planned operations, I just want to underline that this is a three-week burst that we're talking about—it's a three-week burst of activity, and then hopefully we'll be able to go back to whatever normality looks like these days. So, it is important for people to understand that.

Just on the situation in terms of fatality rates in South Africa, I've been trying to read up about this this afternoon. What is clear is that the experts are warning that the South Africa experience may not be a reliable indicator in terms of omicron in other countries. So, 72 per cent of that population had experienced previous COVID infection. That is not the same situation as here in the UK. We have a different demographic, we have an older population here, we have different vulnerabilities to disease, and I think it is important that we understand that, because the system is different in South Africa, we're seeing hospitalisation rates that the—. I think the sensible thing to do is err on the side of caution, prepare for the worst and hope for the best.