Llywydd, what Paul Davies said at the beginning points to the whole dilemma here, doesn't it? Hospitals continue to have to deal with very significant numbers of patients who have contracted coronavirus—over 1,000 beds still in the NHS are in that position—with hospitals having to divide themselves into red zones and green zones, with staff still having to wear personal protective equipment, with all the time that that takes and the impact that it has on productivity, the need for deep cleaning of sites and operating theatres between patients, particularly if you're operating where COVID is known to be part of that patient's condition. The health service isn't in a quick way going to be able to carry on as though none of that were happening. There's going to be a long tail of impact on the health service, and I'm afraid that the actions that the health board are taking that would slow down productivity inevitably are exactly the ones that Paul Davies points to, which protect from transmission of coronavirus within the hospital environment.

Now, I saw the report into the Merthyr position, and it was an issue that was raised by members of staff themselves. And where the Healthcare Inspectorate Wales report says that the plans by the local health board to improve that position came into them in a way that gave confidence that those things would now improve.

You can be sure that, right across the NHS, staff work tirelessly to try to prevent COVID from circulating within the hospital. The single biggest contribution we can make to that is to go on driving down rates in the community, because this is a virus that finds its way into vulnerable settings wherever those settings are to be found, and the more coronavirus circulates in the community, the harder it is to prevent that virus from moving in, whether it's into a prison setting, a care home setting, a hospital setting. Closed settings are where the virus thrives, and the biggest contribution we can all make to preventing the virus from circulating in the hospital is to reduce its circulation in the community.