Llywydd, can I thank Rhianon Passmore for her series of very important points? I agree entirely with what she said about the importance of the BBC here in Wales. Ninety two per cent of adults in Wales use the BBC every single week, whether that is for sport, for news or for culture, or in the way in which BBC Cymru supports the Welsh language. And the expansion of the BBC operation in Wales has been integral to the remarkable success of the tv and film industry in Wales over recent years. So, we are absolutely right to defend the BBC on a whole range of fronts: its independence and its public service remit to inform, educate and entertain, and also to defend it from what the Financial Times characterised in Nadine Dorries's announcement by Twitter on a Sunday evening as simply part of Downing Street's plan to distract from Boris Johnson's leadership travails.

Now, I think that the David Dimbleby contribution is an interesting one. I'm not myself an unambiguous supporter of the licence fee; it may well be, as John Whittingdale, another Conservative MP and former Minister said just this week, that it still is the least worst way of raising funds for the BBC, but it is a regressive tax; it falls most on those who have the least, and a graded system of the sort that Rhianon Passmore set out may be a way of combining a form of licence fee with greater fairness in the future. But those things need to be thought about carefully and by a Government that has the core qualities of the BBC as something it wants to celebrate, not simply putting the BBC in the firing line because of its own extensive difficulties.