Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:09 pm on 26 January 2022.
Diolch yn fawr iawn. I'm grateful to you for taking an intervention. I think this is a much more reasonable tone, actually, from Sam Rowlands, and I agree entirely with you. All of us want to get rid of face masks in schools, and everywhere else as soon as possible, and I think probably Sam Rowlands will be embarrassed by some of the mantra that has been heard by some of his colleagues, this 'learning to live with COVID'. I fear it's the Conservatives learning to forget about COVID. It's been a terrible, terrible experience, and won't Sam Rowlands agree with me that it's not cavalier politicians who will decide when we move to the endemic stage now, but the virus itself, and we have to be very careful in working with it?