Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:15 pm on 1 March 2022.
Diolch yn fawr, Laura Anne, and thank you for such a constructive—. You know, it is all of us, women here, will know what you've been saying about your experiences, sadly. We've got to make such a change, haven't we? But actually, I think one of the things that I said in my statement is that one of our aims is to have this national conversation, so we're starting that today. And it is a conversation that we all need to have, and, in fact, the provision of those grants back in 2018 enabled local authorities to start having the conversations and schools as well.
But I want to just start on your point about relationships and sexuality education, because, of course, you were here when we were discussing this. I'd like to thank Suzy Davies, particularly—former MS, Suzy Davies—for raising the profile of menstrual well-being particularly during the scrutiny of the curriculum and assessment Bill, advocating for its inclusion in the RSE code. There is so much opportunity with the new curriculum in terms of the teaching of menstrual well-being at developmentally appropriate phases in life, and also providing our pupils, our school students, with the knowledge and confidence to seek support and deal with those physical and emotional changes that occur through life.
Now, I was very fortunate this morning to meet with a group of pupils from two local schools, from Radnor Primary School and Fitzalan High School. I asked to meet with them because they've been involved with Children in Wales in helping us respond to the consultation we've had on period dignity. It was wonderful that I had two young student pupils from Radnor Primary School, two girls, and then two boys and two girls from Fitzalan High School, and they'd all been involved in having workshops and discussions. Interestingly, at Fitzalan, they decided to have the boys and girls together for these discussions—all year 7 got involved in it and year 8 as well. And in Radnor, also years 5 and 6. So, they really spoke from the heart and from their experience. It was very revealing.
And I think it's just important that those schools, every local authority, every further education college, have actually accepted our offer of the period dignity grant since 2018. They've run with the scheme, they've learned ways of distributing products, they've tackled stigma. I actually asked them what did they think 'stigma' meant and they were spot on, they said that it's when you're pushed out to look different or you're made to feel different. They were just so clear about how they felt. They told us of changes in the school, where they used to have to go and pick up products in the corridor and now it was in a place where they felt comfortable to go. But as they all said, why should we feel embarrassed about picking up the products? But they were excellent.
I just want to say quickly that we've got to look at the impact of funding, we've got to reach out to those under-served communities; we've got to look to new locations to make the products available. We're doing an evaluation of the grant this year, and the key thing is to listen to those with lived experience of periods and also how it's being managed in schools. And what's interesting is that we did also discuss the fact that their school councils could get involved and put it on the agenda of the school councils. They really taught me so much very quickly just by being together, and I'm sure that other Senedd Members across the Chamber will find that they want to learn; the boys wanted to engage and they were talking about, actually, dads, fathers and male teachers engaging as well, which is crucially important, because it has to be shared by all.
So, just, Molly Fenton, I think we all know, is a very empowering young woman in terms of environmental impacts, and many of us have young people like this in our constituencies to make sure that we reach that target. We've said that 90 to 100 per cent of all period products have to be reusable or eco-friendly by 2026, but we've got to trial this. We've got to recognise that this is not something that's easy, straightforward; you also need to think about facilities within schools in terms of the loos, et cetera, private spaces, washbasins, private access to those. But we have, actually, also—and it's come from local authorities—agreed to spend 20 per cent of the period dignity grant on education or training, which is going to include information on reusable and eco-friendly products.
I think, just finally to say that I've said, in my statement—in response to your point about sport, for example, and access to wider facilities—that this has to be cross-Government action. That's cross-Government action that doesn't just involve me as Minister for Social Justice, but clearly the education Minister, health, mental health and well-being, children and sport. We've all got a role to play in this, as, indeed, everyone in this Chamber has.