13. Legislative Consent Motion on the Building Safety Bill

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:11 pm on 29 March 2022.

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Photo of Jane Dodds Jane Dodds Liberal Democrat 6:11, 29 March 2022

Good afternoon, Deputy Minister. I echo many of the statements that have been made around the process. We find ourselves on a hamster wheel around LCMs, and the timescale that we've been given—yet again—is absolutely abhorrent, and absolutely not what this Senedd should be about. Many of us, I know, and that would include the Ministers, find themselves in a really difficult position, and I do echo and thank the committee Chairs for the work that they do in drawing our attention to that.

On the specific issue, it is nearly five years since Grenfell, and I do welcome the announcements and the developments within this, although very late. I want to emphasise as well the importance of engaging and communicating and consulting with those victims, many of whom have suffered extreme mental health issues and financial instability as well.

Turning to what we have in front of us, I just really want to make one point in relation to clause 160, which provides that the measures come into force two months after the Bill receives Royal Assent. I've had many people contact me, who, whilst welcoming that timescale, are concerned that they could begin to face escalating remediation bills should developers or management companies decide to levy funds from leaseholders before the provisions come into force. Related to those provisions, we see that, in England, those provisions have actually been introduced to protect those people affected from the significant financial burden of paying for the failures of developers—the so-called waterfall protections. Given that those protections, as I understand them, don't apply to Wales, I am concerned that those transitional arrangements could put an additional burden on leaseholders in the very short term.

So, just to turn to my question, if I may, Deputy Minister: what assurances can you give to leaseholders that they are not going to lose out financially, and can you assure us that the Welsh Government will communicate, talk with and engage with those victims who are affected? Thank you. Diolch yn fawr iawn.