Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:41 pm on 29 March 2022.
It could have been my children, to be fair, Presiding Officer. [Laughter.] I speak in support of the Government and the proposition that's being made this afternoon. To start where Rhys ab Owen concluded, of course it is not in our gift to provide consent for the whole of this legislation. This is Westminster legislation designed mostly and generally for UK elections and English elections. It's not in our gift to stop the Bill going ahead, and I don't think we should pretend that it is. What I want to do this afternoon is to congratulate the Counsel General on how he has negotiated with the United Kingdom Government and ensured that we do have the carve-outs that are in place, and that we do have the opportunity to protect Welsh elections from this attack on the integrity of our democracy. I would very gently remind Rhys that, had Plaid Cymru voted for the 2017, I think, legislation, then they would have been able to vote for this as well, with the knowledge that they'd provided the opportunity for us to carve Wales out of this legislation.
The overall Bill that's being put through the Westminster Parliament is a bad Bill. It's a very bad Bill that does bad things. It seeks to undermine the integrity of our democracy by undermining the independence and powers of the regulator. At a time when we're all deeply concerned about the influence of dark money—I hesitate to say 'dirty money', but I suspect there's dirty money in British politics as well—we need to be strengthening independent regulation of our democracy, and we need to be strengthening the ability of the Electoral Commission to mount investigations into where money comes from, to follow the trail and to prosecute those people who are guilty of wrongdoing. I want to see a more powerful regulator protecting our democracy, not a less powerful regulator. It's essential that we do what we can in this place to root not just the processes of democracy, but also a culture of democracy, which we sometimes forget about.
In supporting the Government's approach on this legislation, I wonder if I could say two things to the Counsel General. I'd be grateful if he could respond in his summing up. First of all, do we have the opportunity over this Senedd in order to strengthen the Electoral Commission in Wales and to strengthen how it is able to regulate elections that take place in Wales—Senedd and local authority elections—to ensure that we are demonstrating that we want to see this integrity in the way that we ourselves are elected?
Secondly, Counsel General, we will be looking at Senedd reform over the term of this Parliament, and I hope that in doing so you'll be able to bring forward some legislation that consolidates existing legislation regulating how we run our elections, to ensure that we have a single Act that provides for all of the rules and regulations for elections in Wales, so that we improve not just the way we manage our democracy, but access to the understanding of what that democracy is as well. I think, whatever way in which the UK Government undermines the culture of democracy in the United Kingdom, in Wales what I hope we can do is to keep that light shining and to ensure that in Wales we demonstrate the integrity not just of a democratic Government but of a democracy and a parliamentary democracy where the integrity of that democracy is more important than trying to fix various parts of it.