Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:49 pm on 26 April 2022.
Diolch yn fawr. I accept that what we're embarking on here is a constitutional risk; I've made that clear right throughout the discussion on the Health and Care Bill. I do think, however, in relation to many sections of the Bill that we've already discussed, that actually the UK Government has moved quite a long way in our direction and has made some very significant concessions in our direction. You do have to make a political judgement at some point. Are you going to pocket the concessions and move things on in our direction, or are you going to just stand firm and say, 'Actually, no, just don't step on our territory'? It is a political judgement, and it's very, very difficult. We have made a judgement that is slightly different. As you say, different aspects of Government are taking slightly different positions. If we were to go for a blanket approach, then actually sometimes we may lose out in terms of powers that are being granted to us, effectively—not so much granted to us, but things that would be helpful to us; things that we actually want to happen. So, we have just got to be, I think—. The way that we have approached this Bill, where we have actually managed to really gain a lot of concessions—. They have come a long way, after a lot of negotiations, in our direction. I think that it makes sense for us to hold our noses, I'm afraid, and accept that this is the position. So, I do hope that people will support the motion, and I thank, in particular, Members of the constitutional committee and health committee for their comments. Diolch yn fawr.