Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:17 pm on 3 May 2022.
I wonder if the Counsel General will give way on that very point. One of the basic principles that even an A-level student will learn about human rights is that they are universal—they're non-negotiable, they are universal, apply to everyone. How then does he interpret the UK Government's signal, rejecting, as he rightly says, what they heard in the consultation, that there should be some differentiation between the deserving and the undeserving? It seems to me, unless I'm missing something, it goes against the fundamental A-level understanding of what human rights are. If they're universal, you cannot distinguish between deserving and undeserving. Everybody deserves a right to put their case in terms of human rights.