6. Debate: Human Rights

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:41 pm on 3 May 2022.

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Photo of Huw Irranca-Davies Huw Irranca-Davies Labour 4:41, 3 May 2022

Sioned chaired that group this morning, the cross-party group on human rights. It was fascinating, actually, listening to the discussion. And the points that I want to make—normally I'm restrained a little bit, Llywydd, in making these points, because normally I stand as the Chair of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee, and I'm very dry, and so on. I'm going to try and be equally dispassionate today, but I didn't struggle, I have to say, to find material that was universally in opposition to some of the cumulative changes that we are now seeing being put in front of us, some of which have gone through already. And I go back to that principle that I think we all believe in somewhere, deep down, that human rights are universal. In which case, none of us can argue that they should differentiate between different groups or different individuals. We just can't do that; it's basic stuff there.

But also, human rights put power in the hands of the otherwise powerless. That's what it's all about, and that's why Government are rightly fearful of them, and so they damn well should be as well, because what human rights do is they put Mick Antoniw, Jane Hutt and others, and those in the UK Government and in the European Parliament—it puts them on notice that the citizen, the individual, the dispossessed, the disadvantaged, the powerless individuals and groups and organisations, the minority groups, can equally come with the weight of the law on their side and challenge Governments nationally and internationally as well.