4. What legal advice has the Counsel General provided to the Welsh Government regarding the rights of asylum seekers in Wales in the light of the UK Government’s plan to offshore asylum application processing in Rwanda? OQ57950

Thank you for the question. The Welsh Government is proud that Wales is a nation of sanctuary for all. Welsh Government will continue to protect the rights of asylum seekers in Wales and is seeking to discuss these proposals with UK Government. The UK Government did not share its Rwanda proposals ahead of publication with Welsh Government. 

Thank you very much, Counsel General, and I don't think anybody's surprised by that. The Rwanda plan is, of course, inhumane, unworkable and very probably illegal as well. It is driven by the short-term interests of a right-wing Tory Government rather than any real attempt to find a solution that protects desperate people fleeing war, victims of human trafficking or a solution that genuinely addresses the failings of our broken immigration system. It's been condemned by everyone, from Oxfam to Theresa May. It's a disgrace and it's a shame for all of us in the United Kingdom that this has ever reached the stage it has reached. Can the Counsel General provide assurances that the Welsh Government will do all in its powers to ensure that asylum seekers in Wales have their rights protected to the very best of this Government's ability and to have the full extent of all the legal powers available to Ministers, the Welsh Government and also this place, and that this Labour Government in Wales will ensure that the values of the people of Wales continue to drive our approach as a nation of sanctuary to reach out to provide homes, protection and support for people who need that and don't just chase newspaper headlines day after day, as the UK Government appear to be doing? 

I agree entirely with those sentiments. They're sentiments that other Members have made, that my colleague the Minister for Social Justice has made as well, and many other Members have made those comments within this Chamber. I think it was only yesterday that I was able to refer to the head of the Church of England referring to these proposals as being against the nature of God. I am not personally a religious person, but when the head of a major church is so moved by proposals to say that they are ungodly, it is something where a government has to sit up and take note. And it was quite ironic, actually, that when Boris Johnson was in Kyiv talking about human rights, Priti Patel was being threatened with legal action for breaches of human rights at UK level. 

Apart from that, the proposals are likely to be extremely expensive and inefficient. There was no evidence whatsoever they will deliver anything that the UK Government says that they will deliver. They are certainly contrary to the refugee convention, in particular articles 31 and 32. I am monitoring very closely the issue of legal actions that I understand are being brought to challenge the lawfulness, and, it seems to me, there is a very significant issue as to whether these proposals are in breach of international law or not. But I will monitor that very closely, and I will do all I can to support international legality.