Questions Without Notice from the Party Leaders

Part of 1. Questions to the First Minister – in the Senedd at 1:50 pm on 10 May 2022.

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Photo of Mark Drakeford Mark Drakeford Labour 1:50, 10 May 2022

Well, Llywydd, I do think today is a very significant day in the development of this institution. I brought with me my copy of the Richard commission, and as I was thinking of coming down here this afternoon, I remembered vividly standing alongside the then First Minister, Rhodri Morgan, when he made a telephone call to Lord Richard asking him to chair that commission. And here we are, 20 years beyond its proposal for an expansion in the number of elected Members here in Wales, finally able to bring the capacity of the Senedd to a point where it is able to discharge the responsibilities that fall on the shoulders of people who are elected to be here. And that's the purpose of the reform, isn't it? It's to make sure that decisions that are made here in Wales on behalf of people in Wales are carried out by an institution that's properly equipped to do that.

I've looked back recently, Llywydd, at the many proposals to create a Parliament here in Wales. Not a single one of them, other than the one that got onto the statute book, proposed a number as small as 60. The Kilbrandon report, set up in the 1960s, proposed 100 members for the Welsh parliament that it proposed. You can go back as far as Emlyn Hooson's St David's day government of Wales Bill in 1967 to see a proposal for 88 members of the parliament that was proposed then, and that was a body without many of the responsibilities that have to be exercised here. So, the purpose of the reforms and the fact that we have been able to reach an agreement, after what will by then be 25 years of trying to achieve reform, will be the creation of a parliament here in Wales that reflects the people of Wales in its diversity, and properly equipped to discharge the responsibilities that this Senedd is charged to carry out on behalf of Welsh people.