5. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): The Holodomor

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:11 pm on 11 May 2022.

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Photo of Alun Davies Alun Davies Labour 3:11, 11 May 2022

At the end of this period, Stalin forced many Ukrainians, a million Ukrainian people, to leave their homes and their villages, and they were transported, forcibly removed, from Ukraine to Russia. That is happening today. It is happening again. And when we speak about genocide, and when we speak about human suffering, let us also remember that none of these things were an accident. They were the consequence of a deliberate choice. Stalin decided that he would commit genocide against the Ukrainian people. The harvest was good. There was no crisis in the harvest in those years, 90 years ago. There was no shortage of grain, shortage of seeds, shortage of supplies. They had enough food to feed themselves and to become known as the bread basket of Europe and of the world. The crisis happened and millions of people died because Stalin sought to eradicate the Ukrainian nation and the Ukrainian people, and we know that he was not alone in mass murder, because, several thousand kilometres away from where he was sitting, there was another dictator planning the same activity against Europeans, against the Jews of Europe. We have seen genocide in Europe, and we must learn, and not simply remember, and learn that it should never happen again.

When you look at the systematic way in which the Soviet Government worked to ensure that people starved—villages were blocked, villages were prevented, from accessing the food that was all around them. We saw that starvation was used as a deliberate act of a Government to terrorise a people, and then think about what is happening on the coast today, the southern coast of Ukraine today, where siege mentality and a siege is used against people today. Again, we hear the echoes down the years.

The goal was to crush the resistance of the Ukrainian people to both collectivisation, but also to total incorporation into the USSR—the extinction of the Ukrainian nation. And all those who opposed Stalin were liquidated, starved to death as a deliberate act of Government. And it is important that we bear witness to such genocide and to speak the truth about what happens. We remember that this week, here in our Parliament. The work of Gareth Jones in exposing what happened was central to teaching the world about what happened in those days, and I think we're all grateful to the national library and to Martin Shipton for writing and for ensuring that people hear the words of Gareth Jones again down the years. He saw at first-hand the famine. He saw people desperate with hunger, and he reported the full magnitude of human suffering.

'I walked along through villages and 12 collective farms. Everywhere was the cry, "There is no bread. We are dying"', and those words spread across the world, not only across Europe, but across to the United States as well, so people were to know about what happened. [Interruption.] I will take an intervention.