5. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): The Holodomor

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:08 pm on 11 May 2022.

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Photo of Alun Davies Alun Davies Labour 3:08, 11 May 2022

I'm grateful to you, Deputy Presiding Officer. I'd like to start by saying how grateful I am to Jane Dodds and Sam Kurtz, who are co-submitting the motion today, and to Rhun ap Iorwerth, who will summate the debate we have this afternoon. I'm also grateful to Janet Finch-Saunders, to Jenny Rathbone, to Mark Isherwood, to Peter Fox and to Vikki Phillips—Vikki Howells—who also supported this motion.

It's important to discuss, and it's important to debate. It's important to remember, and it's important to educate and to learn. But it is also important not to repeat the mistakes of the past and to relive the horrors of the past. For many of us, and myself perhaps I'm speaking personally, being born 20 years after D-day, I grew up in the shadow of the second world war. I grew up in the shadow of listening to survivors speaking about the Holocaust. We learnt, at first-hand, what genocide means. I never thought that we would see genocide again, but we have. I bore witness to it in Rwanda and in the former Yugoslavia. We are seeing mass murder, industrial-scale murder, on our screens today, tonight, on a daily basis. It is not only unbelievable, but it is simply unacceptable that we continue to listen and to remember, but never to learn. What I hope we can do this afternoon is to learn about what happened in Ukraine 90 years ago, but also, in learning about what happened 90 years ago, the actions and consequences of what happened then echo down the years and resonate today. What happened 90 years ago is happening today.