Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:25 pm on 11 May 2022.
I just want to speak about a very small thing. What you said about the clinical staff, nurses, everybody, is fantastic. But I have written this paragraph: managers have been appointed without a job description, or at best a job description of managerial description. They have become the embodiment of self-focus, self-development, self-progression, self-preservation, self-extension, self-propagation to the exclusion of the broader interests of the NHS. This tendency can fundamentally subordinate and undermine our NHS. That needs to be looked into, please.