7. Statement by the Minister for Social Justice: Update on Ukraine

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:57 pm on 17 May 2022.

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Photo of Mark Isherwood Mark Isherwood Conservative 4:57, 17 May 2022

In your update on Welsh Government support for Ukraine last Thursday, you referred to the latest UK Government figures, which stated that, as of 10 May, 3,300 visas have been issued to people from Ukraine to come to Wales via the Homes for Ukraine scheme, which is up 1,000 in just a fortnight, of which 1,300 were sponsored by the Welsh Government, up 630 in just a fortnight. Overall, a total of 132,900 Ukraine scheme visa applications have now been received, with 120,300 visas issued, up from 73.2 per cent to 77 per cent in a fortnight, and 46,100 total arrivals for visa holders in the UK, up from 23 per cent to 34.6 per cent in a fortnight. You state that 1,126 people with sponsors have now arrived in Wales, in addition to those arriving under the Ukraine family scheme. What therefore is your understanding of how many have arrived in Wales in total so far under both schemes? And notwithstanding the gradually improving figures, what further specific discussions have you had with the UK Minister for Refugees about the reasons for the gap between numbers of visas issued and total arrivals, and what is being done to address this?

Last Thursday, Members received a British Red Cross briefing on Ukraine, with recommended actions. How do you respond to their statements that, as refugees settle into Wales, monitoring the welfare and safety of refugees longer term will be crucial? Therefore, in the Welsh Government's role as a supersponsor under the Homes for Ukraine scheme, they said, it's important that assurances are made around safeguarding support to ensure that there is a role for local authorities in monitoring ongoing support around the welfare of Ukrainians as they settle in Wales. And they said that, 'While support to date is welcome, we want to minimise the risk of embedding a two-tiered system for refugees in Wales and the UK, which would mean treating people differently based on the way they arrived.' The proposed changes, they said, could leave people without access to vital support. 

Responding to you two weeks ago, I also referred to figures showing a huge variation in the number of visas issued across local authorities in Wales. What is your understanding of the comparative position now, a fortnight later, and, notwithstanding the obvious differences in population size, what is your understanding of the reasons for this range and how are you targeting support at a local level, if a disparity still exists?

Responding to you two weeks ago, I asked how you were working with ministerial colleagues to ensure that school places and local GP and NHS services are available to Ukrainian refugees when they arrive in Wales. You responded stating:

'It's crucial in terms of education that children can obtain admission to schools, and, indeed, also, I have to say, to the health service, to their GPs, to the health checks that are under way. This is monitored on a daily basis.'

However, I subsequently contacted you on behalf of a constituent who had a Ukrainian refugee family arriving the following morning under the Homes for Ukraine scheme, who had been told by the local authority's school admissions that the family's primary school age child could not start education until she'd had a medical from the GP, as directed by the Welsh Government. They had been told by the GP they'd registered the family with that they refused to do a medical, knew nothing of this requirement and did not have the capacity. May I thank you for your very prompt response to this, in which you stated that officials were following up with the admissions officer in the local authority to confirm that, providing the child is well, they do not need to wait for a health assessment to be able to attend school; that the requirement to delay attendance relates specifically to TB screening; that primary school age children can attend if they're well, but secondary school age children do need an assessment and chest x-ray with the health board TB teams in advance of attending school; and that regarding the position relayed to the family from the GP practice, you have asked health officials to follow up on that with the health board as a matter of urgency?

Well, the constituent subsequently told me that school admissions had contacted them to say that primary school age children can now attend school, and thanked you and me for this. However, they added,

'I'm not sure of the process of her attending if her year group is full, which we've been told it is.'

How, therefore, are you working with colleagues to ensure that this capacity issue is addressed? And finally, how will you now ensure that local authority and health services across Wales understand your expectations of them?