Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:27 pm on 18 May 2022.
Could I genuinely on a note of optimism say we are a world away from where we were 12 or 15 years ago? We actually have in place now all the things that are referred to in this report that the Welsh Government is working on—the marine planning, the ambition to deliver marine conservation zones, to have that balance rightly done to develop the evidence et cetera. So, there's a note of optimism there, but would she agree with me that, actually, this is the moment, when faced with both the cost-of-living crisis with runaway prices where we need to deal with renewables, and also a biodiversity crisis and a climate crisis—this is the moment where Wales could actually be the leader, take all those things we've had in place for a decade, and actually really bed them down, and show the UK, actually, what we can do here in Wales?